It is the 4th Movement of the 9th Symphony, where Beethoven resorted to choral expression using the words of Schiller to get his message out there.
But in getting there it seems Beethoven saw that he first had to "sack" certain other music, and the controversy rages to this day as to WHICH other music had to go. All of this would appear to happen in the first 6 1/2 minutes at which point a soloist proclaims Beethoven's OWN words:
"Oh friends, not these tones!
Let us raise our voices in more
Pleasing and more joyful sounds!"
The controversy would seem to center upon a determination of "these" and it seems to me the matter is confused by the fact that while he sacks all three of the initial Movements of THIS Symphony by about 2:43, he does not make his proclamation until about 6:30.
It seems totally understandable that he wanted to keep all the choral parts together [and other reasons], and who would dare question a genius, but for the benefit of us mere mortals I have made a variation below where as soon as he does his famous fist pump at 2:43 to say "YES, I got rid of my demons", he goes straight to his proclamation.
That means that the ORCHESTRAL Ode to Joy theme that then takes over blends seamlessly into the choral improvements of the theme that continue to the end of the Movement.
Please take a listen how this might have worked [with Beethoven of course making smooth transitions].
1. from Timothy Judd
"In the final movement of the Ninth, Beethoven quotes the themes of each preceding movement, musically rejecting each and moving forward with the transcendental “Ode to Joy.” "
2. from Henry Feldman
3. from Agamemnon Basileus
"O Freunde nicht diese töne is an exceedingly enigmatic, ironic utterance. Critical opinion, for the greater part I believe, is that it refers to the so-called Schreckensfanfare (and I also believe it was Wagner who so called it). Others consider it to refer to the preceding movements, or all purely instrumental music. Still others take it to refer to all three things.
I take it as most obviously referring to the Schreckensfanfare and the quotations from the preceding three movements, doubly ironic in that the clouds of at-times severe, elusive music in an instant are dispelled by the sound of a narrative voice, which promises clarity, and in that the meaning of the words uttered by the narrator are just as elusive."
4. from my own UTube video - Eclipsolypse Now
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